Why I’m raising my bike BACK to stock height

100 thoughts on “Why I’m raising my bike BACK to stock height

  1. Happy International Women’s Day! Hope these bad ass ladies inspired you as much as they did me. Tell me below: are you a #FlatFooter or part of the #TipToeGang? I'll be picking up my bike this coming Saturday, keep up with my stories after that for my #21DayChallenge commuting at stock height (if it's not raining :P)

    See my riding journey from DAY ONE to now and maybe you'll learn something with me:
    To see what it's like to be a girl who rides, check this below:

  2. Commuting is definitely the fast track to learning. I did exactly the same (although I’m a guy and not short, but you get the point). I also deliberately tried to ride safely in as many weather and road conditions as possible. Net result after just over a years riding is 10k miles and I feel confident riding in all weathers and conditions. Good luck with your trial commute and stay safe. You’ll probably find like I did that you love bike commuting.

  3. I’m impressed with your go get em attitude. Success starts with the will to succeed. Your attitude is what I tried to instill in my children as a group.

  4. Always nice to improve your skills. I've always been able to flat foot it, just got a dr650, so no longer… Lol.
    Bear in mind that if your bike was only lowered at the rear, then the steering geometry will change and you may find that it is twitchier to ride.

  5. Once you've become used to balancing your bike on your tip toes or with one foot the height no longer matters. It's only a matter of confidence. You should only need to raise your bike back if it's affecting your riding. If it being lowered is affecting you on the track or your street riding. Otherwise raising the bike is pretty much a waste of time and money. But I'm happy when I see new riders become proficient and confident in their riding skills.

  6. I bought a bike last year that was already lowered and now i have to bring it back to normal height cause i feel it affecting the handling. It definitely gives the bike a great stance and looks sweet lowered though.

  7. You go girl. You can do it. I believe in you. Stay safe, GOD Bless.. And have fun, that's what it's all about.

  8. I’m very uncomfortable on taller bikes (which is pretty much ANY bike) and I’d love to be able to ride more of them. But like you were saying about yourself goes for me… I don’t have the skills or practice on taller bikes. This is inspiration for me to get better at it. Can’t wait to see your progress! You got this.

  9. I think you did the right thing lowering your bike, to help hone your skills without the difficulty of it being so high. And you are also doing the right thing now that you want to grow your experience on other bikes. Good going!

  10. Tip toe gang here!! Been riding a little over a year and a half no problem, you got this don’t worry about anything else beautiful blessings coming your way.

  11. You're awesome! when you say tiptoe I hope you're referring to sliding your hips to one side and dropping one leg technique like the girl with the big adventure bikes. just ride back to back days when you can and keep up the good work!

  12. That's awesome. Make sure you lock up your bike at work – with a chain to something very immovable. I say this from experience (not my own, but a friend's).

  13. I am a daily rider, commuting between 110 to 140 miles daily. You just have to do it and you will grow in your skills.

  14. Had an instructor that would only let us put our left foot down unless we were getting off the bike and leaving it in neutral. It was really difficult gaining that confidence at first because instinctively you'd want to place both feet on the ground. After four days of this practice of left foot down only, I now ride in the same way all the time. He had a few sound reasons for this.
    1. Rather than three points of contact to the road (two feet and tires), you would have only two points of contact (left foot and tires). Think of the points of contact like the bottom of a triangle, and triangles are quite stable in this position instead of rocking against three points.
    2. It ensures you are stopping at stop signs and red lights in first and not in neutral or second (allows for quick getaways if someone isn't stopping fast enough behind you). While learning, we did not ever leave our bike in neutral in traffic. Of course when traffic is at a standstill, that is a different situation.
    3. Duck walking is a big no-no, so you'd have to put your left foot on the peg when you are rolling. No dragging feet!
    If I could suggest one thing, is to try riding with your left foot down only. Of course you are a bit shorter than I am, so your bike will lean off to the left a bit more when stopped, but it's worth a shot.

    For perspective, I am 5' 8", inseam is 29", and my seat height is 32.3" (2019 Yamaha MT-09) and I can put my left foot down at lights yet still sit comfortably. Good luck!

    P. S. – Great choice on the Triumph inline triple as that was my second bike choice from the MT-09 👍😅

  15. Grew up riding dirt bikes and learned to Captain Morgan it from one cheek or the other. I have bikes I can flat foot now but I still have to one foot it on my ADV bike and I can’t duck walk backwards. If you can touch one foot down you can ride it. It just takes planning, shifting weight (your butt) while you’re coming to a stop, turn your bars in a little the opposite way you want to lean, etc.

  16. I'm 5 foot 10 with a 29 inch inseam so I'm tiptoeing on most motorcycles including my 2008 Ducati Hypermotard and KTM Superduke GT (with taller heated seat). I completely understand wanting to flat-foot your motorcycle during slippery conditions or walking the bike backwards but you eventually figure it out. I grew up riding a motocross dirtbike when I was very young and short so I adapted. Kudos to you going back to stock and teaching yourself to ride again with your shortcomings (pun intended)😁

  17. A proper suspension setup can also help with your confidence on the bike. This guy has 4 or 5 videos on Triumph 675's, how to get the suspension setup. Many of the vids are trailers to get you to his website, but a lot are free on youtube as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAjAMpOrXy4

  18. Hi Doodle ,,I applaud you on your Decision to learn to control a taller bike..I remember back in around 2010-12 watching a MX racar guy by the name of Stefan Merriman who is very short but tremendously talented..He could not even tip toe the Wr 450 but is an incredible rider..May want to check him out and perhaps pick up a thing or two..Glad Triumph has taken u under their wing..

  19. I'm male 169cm and "tip toe" my 90s sportbike. The bike having a lower centre of gravity means it's not an issue (I can hold it upright flat-footed at an angle if required). You should be able to manage the same. Motorcycling is a skill you need to be practicing every week or you'll lose your skills (like most things in life). Commuting every day and getting your riding hours up will make you more skillful. I have two rules – (1) I never ever ride when physically or mentally tired or emotionally upset (i.e. angry) (2) I never ride when the road is wet.

  20. im the opposite of you. Im 5ft 11in, an absolute tower of a woman, but still pint sized at 135lbs. My problem is trying to find an option to raise the bike im gonna get so i can get more lean angle, without spending a cool few thousand to do so.

  21. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 😊 Got 3 words for you…
    1. Practice ..
    2. Practice ….
    3. Practice
    You got this …
    Jocelyne Snow is Amazing .
    Just be patient with yourself .. 🙂🙂🙂

  22. Hi!
    I can really recommend that you commute on the bike! It makes every day better and you will look forward to getting to work.
    The best thing is if you have had a bad day at work or something like that, your stress levels will just drop the second you get on the bike. And you can take a detour on your way home.

    I started riding last spring and I rode the bike to work almost every day! I can't tell you how many days my 20 minutes ride home turned in to an hour or two.

    Keep up the good work and I must say that I really admire your passion to get better and I think it's really good that more and more girls starts riding!

  23. All those compensation skills for riding a high bike are great. However, I think if a bike can be lowered to a height where u can get your feet on the ground, then do that and develop skills riding a lowered bike.

  24. Commuting on your bike is awesome. Traffic is easier to get through. Parking is easier. And it's generally more enjoyable.

    Also, don't be afraid of the rain. Just slow down a little, don't lean as hard and you'll be fine. You're right about the learning curve. If you're driving to work, might as well spend all that time building comfort with your bike.

  25. You started on a very small bike. So it makes the other bikes seem that much taller. I found your channel because I also started on the S40. When I moved up to a bigger bike it seemed so tall, and took a while to get used to. But now I love it! Love being able to look over traffic, or see farther down the road.

  26. I'm a fairly short guy at 5' 5 3/4", but I have found that my experience on bicycles when very young carries over to motorcycles. The only real difference as far as handling tall ones when stopped is weight. I rode a 27" 10 speed at ten years old when I could barely reach the pedals sitting on the crossbar. I had to kook my knee on the crossbar to hang off one side and put a foot down… 90 percent of it is how badly ya want to do it. Incremental progress is always easier. Get used to riding a shorter bike the right way before you move on to taller bikes, and when you go to the taller bike, make sure it's not a lot heavier than what you're used to. Even on a bike you can flatfoot, only put one foot down, and then only when completely stopped. The first time I rode an FJR1300, I almost dropped it at a light. With the seat in the high position, I have to hang off one side to get a foot down, and I wasn't really prepared for the weight, which is carried pretty high and made it a bit awkward for me. I didn't have any problem with lighter bikes at similar height. After riding somewhat shorter bikes at similar weights and topheaviness for a few months, I find the FJR to be much easier to handle. First "too tall" bikes should be lighter, and first heavy bikes should be shorter. Only after becoming comfortable with height and weight individually should you try bikes that are both tall and heavy. One good thing about being short is that it can actually help make you a better rider. When you can't reach the ground, you keep your feet on the pegs even when it gets squirrelly. When my front tire starts to wash out in sand, I don't have any "instinct" to put a foot down, but rather naturally use throttle, steering input, and body movement to stay upright. I can say that I keep the rubber side down better than a lot of taller guys who tend to "dab" or drag their feet when it gets hairy…

  27. I feel you! I'm 4'11". I'm a new rider, so I had my bike lowered. Once I build my skills, I will have the bike put back to stock height. It feels very limiting to only be able to ride certian bikes and that kinda sucks. I want to be able to ride any bike I want to ride. During my MSF course, I dropped the bike 5 times on the first day. I was the only person to drop a bike during the entire weekend. It sucked. By the second day, I had a better feel for it, and didn't have a single drop. The first day I took my own bike to a parking lot to practice, I dropped it three times. After that, I decided lowering it for a while would probably be wise. It's not easy being short, but with enough practice, we will get there. 🙂

  28. Good luck i have a triumph tiger 800 and with the lowering kit on it.but i agree if you want to ride more bikes and have more confidence have to change it to stock..thank you..

  29. As a short guy, I know what you mean, in fact I just paid for a new bike and already ordered a lower link before get the bike,
    I have the fear and lack of confidence that couldn't handle the bike.will follow you,good luck

  30. Just like 6 year old kids riding their parent's big English 🚲 bicycle. Different strategies. Unfortunately, motorcycles don't come in a girl's frame to flat foot.

  31. I had a wide bodied heavy bike for years and never got comfortable with the tip toe. I dropped it 4x. I now have a flat foot setup. It’s fantastic. I’ll never go back.

  32. This video just turned up randomly off my feed. Good on you for being honest. I ride a lowered 690R and I still can’t get both balls of my feet on the ground, but you learn to compensate really fast. I never have both feet down, I always kickstand onto one leg and even off-road I’ve never had a problem. If there has been a case when where I’m going to lose the ground from under me, my instinct is to do a quick hop off the bike while keeping my hands on the bars to catch it. You would also be amazed at how much of a difference using your rear brake on a decline makes the bike squat in the back than if you keep the front brake on. Vice-versa going uphill. Good luck!

  33. Wonderful video ,, you sure getting there , love your self confidence Doodle that's what is helping you big time . You have the intelligent s and guts to learn and do it for your self and your having fun ,so have a great 2020 and keep it between the hedges . Charlie from Ireland

  34. I think it is great you are taking on this adventure. It will surely do you well in what you want to accomplish with more vids and test rides. Congrats. Like in anything, just time and repetition and you will master it I am sure.

  35. Why hide what u like to do? If I had a female college with a bike, I would be instantly 😍😍and then, Like 🤩. Don’t care doodle what others say…

  36. Happy Bad Ass Women's Day Doodle! F Yeh!!! You have learned that with experience, and what you know now, your beautiful Bonneville would be more than manageable now. I am into the Triumph Tiger line and all of them are tall adventure bikes. I am 6 ft and all are mainly a one flat foot bike. With experience this becomes the norm. Tip toe or flat foot one side, doesn't matter. Just buy the bike you want and adjust… Peace lady and be Safe!!!!

  37. Im at the opposite end of the spectrum im very tall so i have the total opposite problem of just fitting the bike. But im 20+ years in on the saddle 10 of those were daily commuting (i refused to own a car/truck untill i had my child). I rode every condition in every season. And in that time i have ridden anything i can get my hands on. All i can say is push yourself at your own speed and daily commute for a while like you are planning. Btw its your bike what difference does it make to you what ppl think that cant get out of there own bird cage… BE FREE!!! Ps and i will say triumph is a company i wouldnt mind riding again the only thing i have never ridden are bmw and benelli but i remain hopeful!! Have fun be safe keep riding

  38. This world needs more women riding motorcycles PERIOD! I'm finished now….
    I have been a subsciber from the beginning and I am happy to see how far you have progressed in your skills and experiences. Many clapping hands right now Lady!!!

  39. The two things about commuting is always have a waterproof shell available, and lengthen your road vision. Those are my two pointers as a commuter. Also, if you have to break the law to get out of the way, do it, but get out of the way. Hope it works out well.

  40. You came up as a "recommended video" so I'm wondering if YouTube is reading my comments because I've actually commented on this very issue on other YouTube motorcycle vlogs.
    I'm 5'3" in my bare feet. Because of my height I put off riding motorcycles until I turned 52. I couldn't take it anymore, I love riding 2 wheels. Let me tell you something. Do not ever put off doing something you have dreamed of doing.
    In class I had to tippy toe. Bought my first bike and I had to tippy toe it. I thought it would be better lowered. So I lowered it. Now that I'm a more confident rider. I think I'll raise it back up. If your new to riding do what's comfortable to you. Get accustomed to that power in from the engine, turning, stopping, slow speed all that. In time, you'll know, get a bigger bike or raise yours back and start dealing with the tippy toe issue. I think you did the right thing and now you're just ready to level up. Pun intended.
    Ride safe!

  41. Enjoyed your vid. The seat height is crazy on bikes. My XR650Lhad a 37 inch height when i bought it. I fell off in the parking lot. I dis lower it but, its still 35 inches.
    I later learned to use my bike like a tripod..the two wheels are two legs of the tripod and one of my legs is the other. Usually my right leg. ( so i can shift)
    I like you! You seem nice! So few nice people these days. I hope you are safe…
    I have been riding for 55 years…ill ride until i die. There is no joy in this world greater than riding with friends and taking in all the beauty.
    And beer…
    Had to add that last part.
    Ride safe my friend.

  42. I've been riding bikes most of my life and virtually all of them I have had to tip toe, I'm of what is considered average height, but some of the seats tend to be a bit wide, you simply shift your but cheek over to the side you are putting your foot down, job done.

    Occasionally we all make mistakes, but with your leg extended you can let your bike down gently, don't bother trying to stop it from falling you will probably do yourself an injury but let it down as gently as you can, then simply pick it up and usually you have no damage.

    Big bikes are heavy as you know, so once you are off balance it's better just to help it to go down as gently as you can without straining yourself, if you let it just drop you probably will get damage but if you help it down you probably won't.

    Just one thing I learned after years of being a working biker sitting on a motorcycle up to 12 hours a day, never get complacent about the road or the bike, the bike will fail on you one day and it's better not to put yourself in a position you can't recover from, all machines fail at some point no matter how much you look after them and it's always at a time you least expect it.

  43. Good Luck! Sending a prayer and good vibes down to Ga! I have dropped every bike I have ever owned. And every time it was because I forgot to put the kick stand down lol! You will conquer this without doubt!

  44. You are not alone, but I think more women suffer from this as they can be shorter. I had the same issue with a street triple R..tippy toes, but it's really not an issue these days (I have dropped by bike on 2 occasions early on). I tend to just ensure I can get at least one foot down solidly when I stop by moving my butt over to whatever side I'm going to put my foot down…and you'll start to think about this until it becomes automatic very quickly. Two feet tippy toes is never that stable, one foot planted while I'm shifted over to that side in the seat, is far more secure for me. Good luck, I'm sure you'll get it and not even think about it after a while!

  45. Trust me it will become second nature if you commute to work every day and don't worry about the girls in the office they probably wish they could ride 🏍

  46. I'm still a flatfooter. I'm still a noob. But I'm also 50+ with a bad lumbar disk. Smarts to ride and mount/dismount sometimes. So lower is generally better for me at this point in life. Like your point about the uphill foot. I'm also a helicopter pilot, basically the same principle applies landing a helicopter on a slope. Dynamic rollover in a Bell Huey happens with as little as 12 degrees lateral tilt. Keep up the cool vids. At your convenience. 🙂

  47. Happy International Womens' Day! https://www.aerotime.aero/rytis.beresnevicius/23357-raymonde-de-laroche-first-licensed-pilot

  48. ☝️🎃Why would you just take a look at that 🤔 its a lifted doodler… I’ll be derned… theres sumpin’ ya dont see every day. 🤪

  49. As long as you can put one foot down which everyone can do thats all you need. The small young lady is a perfect example of this. Tall people have the luxury of two feet down but it really isn't necessary and i find experienced riders just use one. I use my left foot to the ground and the other stays on the rear brake pedal

  50. You’ll be fine for sure! If you get your hands on an off-road bike ahead, try to find a gravel road and learn how to steer with the back wheel ie drifting. Start at a reasonable speed and like most motocross riders the elbow is up entering the curve which is natural since you’re breaking and when going out of the curve the elbow is down twisting the throttle and going sideways-that’s great fun.
    But make sure you have distance between your self and others because fistfuls of gravel will be in the air and if you’re behind a someone you might loose both headlights and teeth…
    All the best from a former desert rider.

    And lowering the bike or raising the groin is a costly issue!

  51. Wow! You are quite amazing! Kudos and best of luck! This kind of stuff is why you were picked maybe, just your conviction and delivery skills. I mean that and you are stunningly gorgeous. Who knows though, but my guess maybe Yammie pulled for you, amongst you being such a huge promoter of the Triumph stuff! So glad I found you, thanks to Yam!

  52. Interesting theory, but you probably were picked because you are a female rider. A young lady youtuber who has only ever ridden Harley was also invited and at that event. She had never ridden anything other than the 2 Harleys she rode.

  53. I don't know how long you've been riding . But I can say this. You will be fine . You'll find that the bike actually handles better at it stock height. Have fun and stay safe.

  54. Love the video and what a great way to challenge yourself, with raising the bike and commuting. I'm a new rider and had my bike lowered, right now I'm not tip toe but not flat foot either, mid foot maybe? I sometimes wish I could flat foot both feet, its one less thing to worry about when learning to ride but I'm also picking up skills like observing the camber of the road and road surface I'm stopping on, etc. Ride safe!

  55. Not knocking you or anyone else. Everyone has their own pace and skillset. But in my perspective, I dont know how I could stand life taking so long to learn simple things

  56. I love your methodical, practical approach.
    I would feel much better if you got a BUNCH of dirt bike experience , in the dirt. Dirt bikes are also TALL!!! Also in the dirt you can slide the bike under braking and acceleration . It's really the basics that many riders never get. I can't tell you how nice it is to lock up your street bike in an emergency situation and slide under perfect control while changing lanes and avoiding disaster.
    Stay encouraged and stay alive please 🙂

  57. I'm 5"4, I'm thinking of getting a taller bike, but i have a wife and kids from 32 to 12 and a 9 years old, all daughters,and I know I can keep my self up but I worry about dropping, with them on the back; I'm in my late 50's. Ps and grandkids.

  58. You will adapt very quickly . I am a half an ass cheeks and one big toe on my dirt bike with a kick start .try not to over think it it will come . Always check the camber of the road and foot to high side 👍

  59. I’m 6’1 and even I was aware and apprehensive of seat height when choosing/ testing my bike. Dropping a bike is a very daunting experience. Big respect for this video, I’m sure you’ll be giving a lot of people the courage to try all types of motorcycles.

  60. Keep up the regular practise, take advice from experts and exchange brawn for a smart technique.

    Much useful advice below from contributors but bear in mind that you are always more stable coming to a halt with one foot on the ground (or firm surface such as a raised kerb) and one on a peg – like a tripod – than you ever would be tip-toeing. Glance at and anticipate the ground every time when coming to a halt for adverse camber and condition (my favourite is diesel spillages at fuel stations) and be prepared to change which foot comes to rest on the ground depending on surface or even change the stopping point. Practise swapping feet to counter any dominant tendency.

    I once saw 4 policeman ride into the corner of a parking lot locally, get off their R1200 RTs and simultaneously walk next to their bike backwards into a tight spot for parking. All without any loss of pride, in fact it looked like a balet! Don't be afraid to consider that approach in tricky situations, it'll be safer than duck-walking on backwards tip-toes anytime.

  61. You'll be able to do, it will take some practice. Everybody drops their bike from time to time. I ride a bike that's a little tall for me too but I tip toe and I've dropped it a few times, mainly when I have high centered it riding off-road. But I'm mastering that too and you can

  62. hey anyway you could show us your motovlogging setup? just wondering what the best bang for your buck is out there?

  63. I think being comfortable is more important…. if tip toeing is uncomfortable then its not for you… to me it just becomes more of a hazard.. but also being able to handle the bike when tip.toeing is important..

  64. Heck yeah!!! You got this girl! Only takes a couple of weeks of commuting before you get the hang of it! You’ll get it sooner than you think! 👍🏼

  65. I guess if you're going to be driving other people's bikes a lot, what you're doing makes sense. For me, I only drive my bike and it's all I care to drive, I'm making my bike fit MY body, and no way am I fitting my body to the bike. Making it feel like a natural extension of me is what it's all about for safety and comfort sake. Now, I'm off to look at those Wilbers Shocks. lol.

  66. Doddles… luv…. I got a triumph tiger 1050.. it’s got stock seat & even with the aftermarket rear shock it’s stock height.
    In the UK, they teach you to sit at lights etc in first gear with left foot down/ right foot braking – highlights rear light to alert following drivers – which suits me as I can’t flatfoot both feet.
    She’s a big girl but totally calm at lights. Commend you for reverting back to stock and getting used to it.
    Just mind the odd loose stones underfoot.

  67. Omg, I got caught on my bike at work and couldn't duck away (since it's many nosey people here), hah haha since that day that's all people talk about me and my bike. What I do not get or appreciate is when someone says "I've never expected you to be a biker",, really dislike that statement, well one I'm a "rider" and two "expect anything from me", zoom zooooommmm.

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